AlexCRMmanager 2008-07-14T07:34:53Z If any Ruby/Ruby on Rails developers out there want to be involved with the ActiveSalesforce project, please join us at: http://github.com/luigi/activerecord-activesalesforce-adapter/ http://groups.google.com/group/activesalesforce We will be posting updates and information frequently in both of those venues as ActiveSalesforce is improved and expanded! ian_dees 2008-07-12T08:26:27Z Doug is right on target. Integrating the community speed updates for RForce (using a C-based XML parser instead of the built-in Ruby one) will give ActiveSalesforce a big boost. (I'm the original author of RForce.) dchasman 2008-07-12T02:26:37Z ... also I believe that the closest apples-to-apples feature/performance comparison would be between pyax (pyax is certainly much more structure and complete) and rforce - these 2 libraries both act as a direct mapping to the salesforce api but ASF is integrating into a complex Model/View/Controller framework which introduces its own additional overhead. If you're not using the MVC bits of Rails then both it and ASF by extension are adding quite a bit of bulk to your solution. With that said I do expect that with the performance improvements we're testing out now (remember we're seeing around 20 times the throughput on the api client side!) with the next version of rforce that we should see very similar performance characteristics between pyax and rforce. This should translate to a nice overall performance improvement for ASF. There is still some additional low hanging fruit in ASF itself - some of which we'll start picking off very soon. dchasman 2008-07-12T02:15:02Z I have been working on building out an actual team for the ASF open source project (I have been the only developer since creating ASF purely as a labor of love 2 years ago) and one of the things we are focusing on right now is improving performance. ASF depends on a library called RForce for its basic SOAP stack and performance profiling has identified that library as an area that we have been able to demonstrate almost a 20X improvement in throughput by switching from the current REXML parser to an expat-based one. Look for this and a number of other enhancements coming soon! Once we get performance where we want it to be with the current implementation we are planning to leverage a number of important salesforce.com api enhancements (e.g. api joins) and concepts like namespaces that just plain did not even exist when ASF was first developed. Finally, expect to see ASF become better integrated with the Rails stack and reach greater parity with its RDBMS backed cousins in areas such as migrations and test fixtures. agluewvrs 2008-07-09T14:42:10Z I'm not a developer but I know that ruby on rails is sweet so whatever makes it work faster/better/stronger with SFDC is good. All hail developers! :)